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president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's n
president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given...
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secretary of state clinton said this about the possible use of e emical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people but suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> reporter: seizing the chemical weapons and agents would require putting up to 75,000 troops on the ground. a massive operation that u.s. officials say is only likely to happen if and when assad falls. preventing assad from using his weapons would require air strikes against sights defended by russian-made anti-aircraft missiles. for now, the obama administration is backing up its public warnings by sending private messages to assad through one of his few remaining allies, russia. >> pelley: david, thank you. the assad dictatorship has ruled syria for more than 40 years. the syrian people rebelled last year and it's been open warfare ever since. it's extremely hazardous for reporters to
secretary of state clinton said this about the possible use of e emical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people but suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> reporter: seizing the chemical weapons and agents would require putting up to...
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clinton to encourage her to run for the race of mayor next year. clinton reportedly showed no interest. >> shocking. >>> well, a search is under way here in new york for a man accused of pushing another man to his death in the subway. witnesses say the 58-year-old victim was shoved from the platform into the path of an oncoming train. he tried to climb out. but it was just too late. moments earlier, surveillance cameras captured the suspect arguing with the victim. several subway riders who witnessed the death had to be treated for trauma. >>> doctors say flu season is already under way, arriving weeks ahead of schedule. this is the earliest season in a decade. and the strain could be particularly severe, especially in children and the elderly. five states, from texas to tennessee, already are reporting widespread cases. a reminder to get your flu shot and get it earlier than last year. >> get that needle. look away. >> i have to dig my nails into my arm so i don't feel the prick. been doing it since i was a kid. >>> "monday night football" it's no
clinton to encourage her to run for the race of mayor next year. clinton reportedly showed no interest. >> shocking. >>> well, a search is under way here in new york for a man accused of pushing another man to his death in the subway. witnesses say the 58-year-old victim was shoved from the platform into the path of an oncoming train. he tried to climb out. but it was just too late. moments earlier, surveillance cameras captured the suspect arguing with the victim. several subway...
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in 1986, came down closer to those clinton era tax rates, 39%. we have seen nothing but lower taxes over the last generation. if we have been enjoying low taxes, why are the jobs not being created right now. there's not no validity. we really, really looked into this. you don't generally speaking want to be raising taxes on people if you can avoid it. it costs you competitiveness. but the argument that somehow you're going to see this explosion in economic growth by not increasing those taxes by 3.6% doesn't seem to hold water. we're in a different economy now. there aren't really mathematical formulas you can use to apply to it. it all depends on growth rates and growth rates often depend on confidence in the economy. so there are a few variables here that you can't account for. >> ali velshi, thank you. >> my pleasure. >>> internet security guru john mcafee in hiding wanted for questioning in belize in the death of his neighbor. martin savidge got the first on-camera interview with mcafee since he went on the run. an interview almost as bizarre
in 1986, came down closer to those clinton era tax rates, 39%. we have seen nothing but lower taxes over the last generation. if we have been enjoying low taxes, why are the jobs not being created right now. there's not no validity. we really, really looked into this. you don't generally speaking want to be raising taxes on people if you can avoid it. it costs you competitiveness. but the argument that somehow you're going to see this explosion in economic growth by not increasing those taxes...
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we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. freedom of tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a year over the next ten year, twice as much as you could from allowing the bush tax rates to lapse. why the income tax system is overburdened in the united states. we use it too much. we should be looking at other taxes. we can't do it in 29 days. why are we doing it in 29 days? >> but the president ran on raises taxes, right? if you look at the polls. 60% of people support raising taxes on people who make over $250,000 a year. how much of a problem is it, david, if the republicans you know, tom coburn said he does not want to raise that tax number. >> the president ran on his
we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. freedom of tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a...
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secretary of state hillary clinton says if assad goes down that road, there will be consequences. >> suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> this week nato foreign ministers are expected to approve turkey's request for patriot antimissile systems. turkey has been supportive of assad opponents and is concerned about possible retaliation by syrian missiles. >>> iran says it captured an american drove but a navy spokesman says none are missing. the commander says all the unmanned surveillance aircraft in the region are accounted for. other nations in the gulf including the united arab emirates have drones in service. >>> 5:15. muni issues are fixed. >> reporter: power was restored about 15 minutes ago before the morning commute heated up this morning so things are back on track. no delays for any muni lines right now so you be good to go for mass transit altogether. in fact, bart, ace, caltrain and ferries on time as well as muni. now, elsewhere we have a couple of things to look out for later on today. we have some roadwork sched
secretary of state hillary clinton says if assad goes down that road, there will be consequences. >> suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> this week nato foreign ministers are expected to approve turkey's request for patriot antimissile systems. turkey has been supportive of assad opponents and is concerned about possible retaliation by syrian missiles. >>> iran says it captured an american drove but a navy...
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secretary of state hillary clinton says if assad goes down that road, there will be consequences. >> suffice to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> this week nato foreign minister is expected to approve turkey's request for patriot antimissile systems. turkey has been supportive of assad opponents and is concerned about possible retaliation by syrian missiles. >>> iran claims it has captured an american drone but a u.s. navy spokesman says no drones are missing. the commander says all the unmanned surveillance aircraft in the region are accounted for. other nations in the gulf including the united arab emirates have drones in service. >>> 6:12. no laughing matter. a comedian first busted in oakland is arrested again. how this time though it cost someone their job. >> and a beer brawl. how far one store worker went to get his liquor back. >> and we're off to an early start. the factors that could make this flu season a very danger with us one. we have details coming up. ,,,,,, you won't take my life. you won't take our future. aids affect
secretary of state hillary clinton says if assad goes down that road, there will be consequences. >> suffice to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> this week nato foreign minister is expected to approve turkey's request for patriot antimissile systems. turkey has been supportive of assad opponents and is concerned about possible retaliation by syrian missiles. >>> iran claims it has captured an american drone but a u.s. navy...
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mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. point." this just in, a school bus carrying children has crashed into a pole in seminole county, florida. this is from wftv who spoke to the florida highway patrol. troopers told them the children were taken off the bus.
mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools...
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. >>> and a prominent new york city politician asked the secretary hillary clinton as she prepares to step down. michael bloomberg called clinton to encourage her to enter the 2013 race for new york mayor when his term end. "the new york times" made it clear that she had no interest in the job. if she, however, decides to change her mind, she has one hurdle she has to overcome. she has to be a resident of the city. she bought a home when sheep deep sided to run for senate. >> exactly. >> new york senate years ago. >> you would imagine hillary clinton is one of the superstars in politics, and she has certain star power. you would think if she comes back into politics at this point -- they say she is not -- she would want a national office compared to a big, big job like mayor of new york city. if she gets in the game, she's going for the top again. the white house, not here in new york. >> what is mayor bloomberg going to do, steps down december 31st of 2013. >> count his money, i guess. >>> speaking of money, mitt romney is making a career move of sorts. he's rejoining the board of di
. >>> and a prominent new york city politician asked the secretary hillary clinton as she prepares to step down. michael bloomberg called clinton to encourage her to enter the 2013 race for new york mayor when his term end. "the new york times" made it clear that she had no interest in the job. if she, however, decides to change her mind, she has one hurdle she has to overcome. she has to be a resident of the city. she bought a home when sheep deep sided to run for senate....
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going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking about, and negotiations could continue. doing what i'm talking about does not violate what either side is fighting over. they both say this is something we want to do. why not make sure we do not have some last-minute failure at the end of december. guest: what gives you confidence that democrats would agree later on? guest: this is where i disagree with some of my colleagues. they seem to think the american people are leveraged, and this is the democrats leverage. our leverage is in the spending and entitlement issues. the president and his negotiators are smart and able people. they know
going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking...
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restoring the clinton tax rates is something i would support. we supported them back in 1991 when bill clinton was running for president. no problem on that. it is a reasonable adjustment, but may not be sufficient to reach the targets we need and it does not help us in bipartisan bargaining, reaching a deal. i hope as this negotiation -- we ought to be at the irish times -- that they will not make a fetish of marginal tax rates street if they should go up some, but do they need to go back where they work? i do not know. lots of ways to increase taxes on rich people, and it may be that a hybrid of marginal tax increases and the kind of base- broadening loophole closing expenditure closing that simpson-bowles proposed should be part of the mix. raising marginal rates does not guarantee you will get your intended target. a very rich people depend more on investment income than on their labour income. if you want to get them -- and this is where mitt romney was able to pay a 14% tax rate on earnings of $14 million -- so if you are trying to get the
restoring the clinton tax rates is something i would support. we supported them back in 1991 when bill clinton was running for president. no problem on that. it is a reasonable adjustment, but may not be sufficient to reach the targets we need and it does not help us in bipartisan bargaining, reaching a deal. i hope as this negotiation -- we ought to be at the irish times -- that they will not make a fetish of marginal tax rates street if they should go up some, but do they need to go back...
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. >>> high-profile candidates mayor michael bloomberg wanted hillary clinton to succeed him. bloomberg encouraged the secretary of state to >>> cloudy skies this morning. a beautiful sunrise outside from our mount vaca cam. right now most of the bay area dry although we are starting to see scattered showers in the north bay. that's what we'll see on and off today not a whole lot of rain just a few light showers wet at times in the area. temperatures this afternoon mainly into the 60s. the main rain event coming overnight tonight into tomorrow morning. showers through wednesday, drying out on thursday and friday. >>> football is a violent sport, adding guns to the mix does not help. this morning, john miller looks at the tragic case of jovan belcher and why many inside the nfl are looking at the culture of guns in pro sports. >>> and red light cameras bring in millions of dollars in tickets for cities and towns across the country. but now drivers are fighting back. filing a massive lawsuit claiming those stoplights don't give them a fair chance. >> if you're timing them too sh
. >>> high-profile candidates mayor michael bloomberg wanted hillary clinton to succeed him. bloomberg encouraged the secretary of state to >>> cloudy skies this morning. a beautiful sunrise outside from our mount vaca cam. right now most of the bay area dry although we are starting to see scattered showers in the north bay. that's what we'll see on and off today not a whole lot of rain just a few light showers wet at times in the area. temperatures this afternoon mainly into...
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. >> new york mayor michael bloomberg reportedly wants hillary clinton to be his successor. several newspapers reporting the mayor called the secretary of state months ago and urged her to run in 2013 and he's convinced she would win. calling her a perfect fit. mrs. clinton reportedly told mayor bloomberg that she's not interested. >>> all right a renewed appeal for the release of an american prisoner in cuba. 63-year-old alan gross is beginning his fourth year of a 15-year sentence on the island. the u.s. state department issued a new statement calling for his release. gross says he was there in an effort to connect cuba's small jewish community to the internet. the cuban authorities said he was using imported sensitive communications equipment to connect dissidents. >>> two virginia tech football players have been suspended from the team. they're charged with manufacturing and detonating an explosive device. police say 20-year-old joshua trimble and 19-year-old brian roadie were arrested sunday after a small explosion near an apartment building. no one was hurt. an attorne
. >> new york mayor michael bloomberg reportedly wants hillary clinton to be his successor. several newspapers reporting the mayor called the secretary of state months ago and urged her to run in 2013 and he's convinced she would win. calling her a perfect fit. mrs. clinton reportedly told mayor bloomberg that she's not interested. >>> all right a renewed appeal for the release of an american prisoner in cuba. 63-year-old alan gross is beginning his fourth year of a 15-year...
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this is something that former president clinton said during the campaign. it's arithmetic. given the choice between the millionaires and billionaires and the middle class, the republicans again sided with the wealthy of this country. their plan doesn't just keep rates low for the richest 2%, it actually lowers them further. the democrats' plan would protect 98% of families and 97% of small businesses from painful tax increases by asking the top 2% to pay a little bit more. the republicans' plan, on the other hand, is more of the same. not only does 2 balance the budget on the backs of the middle class, it voids our promise to seniors with steep cuts to social security and medicare, all to pay for even more handouts to the rich. at least we now know where they stand. republicans have sought to cover by invok invoking erskine bowle' name. he has disavowed their plan. we're glad to see the republicans join in the negotiating process. while their proposal may be serious, it's also a nonstarter. they know any agreement that raises taxes on the middle class in order to protect mo
this is something that former president clinton said during the campaign. it's arithmetic. given the choice between the millionaires and billionaires and the middle class, the republicans again sided with the wealthy of this country. their plan doesn't just keep rates low for the richest 2%, it actually lowers them further. the democrats' plan would protect 98% of families and 97% of small businesses from painful tax increases by asking the top 2% to pay a little bit more. the republicans'...